![]() |
US vs LEONARD PELTIER
TRIAL TRANSCRIPT EXCERPTS Case Number CR77-3003 |
MAP FROM THE MAP
{EXHIBIT 71} USED AT THE TRIAL
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
VERBAL MAP A
SA HORACE HEAFNER
B
MR. HULTMAN: Your Honor, the next exhibit will be the showing
of a 170 feet of Super millimeter movie film concerning the area. It would
take us -- and I think it ought to be done at this time, your Honor, because
I think it is illustrative and counsel is in agreement.
It will take us a short time in order to get the screen set up
and the projector and so forth, so I would request of the Court that maybe
we would stand at ease for five minutes, or whatever time it takes, in
order to do that; and what will then follow, your Honor, will be the showing
of the film; and I will read a brief script with it which again counsel
has stipulated to and will be made a part of the record along with the
film itself; and I am trying to find the film's number here as an exhibit
number -- Exhibit No. 10, and the script with it will be {495} Exhibit
10-A.
THE COURT: Are you offering those exhibits in evidence?
MR HULTMAN: Yes, and I am offering them both at this time
too.
MR. TAIKEFF: No objection.
THE COURT: Exhibits 10 and 10-A are received.
(Plaintiff's Exhibits Nos. 10 and 10-A, having been previously
duly marked for identification, so offered in evidence, were received.)
THE COURT: You may set it up.
The question has been raised by the court reporter as to whether
counsel would desire that the dialogue apparently that you are going to
read --
MR. HULTMAN: (Interrupting) Yes, your Honor.
THE COURT: (Continuing) -- in the showing of the film should
be reported.
MR. HULTMAN: I will give a copy of it as an exhibit, and
it will not in any way be different, your Honor, from what the exhibit
is. I see no reason for the reporter to, if counsel agrees.
MR. TAIKEFF: I am agreeable to that, your Honor.
THE COURT: Very well, it will not be necessary to report
it.
MR. HULTMAN: She can make it a part of the record, {496}
of course, and she can use the script, the Exhibit 10-A.
Now, your Honor, there is agreement of counsel that the operator
-- and this is a very neophyte operation, beginning with the film and everything
concerning it, it is the best there is -- that the operator will run it
forward a short distance in order to get the focus and so forth, and run
it back; and then I will do the narration if counsel is in agreement.
I think we are going to have to have some
lights or we aren't going to see anything.
(Plaintiff's Exhibit No. 10-A during the showing of the movie
was read by Mr. Hultman as follows:)
"The following is a verbal description of approximately 170 feet
of Super 8mm movie film depicting the area around the Jumping Bull Hall
vicinity and an area commonly referred to as `Tent City.' "Directions
and information furnished herewith will be described from the point of
view of being behind the movie camera.
"This is a view looking in an easterly direction from the Jumping
Bull residence sweeping to the north direction showing the Wanda Siers
residence with a dirt road in front. The sweep continues from north to
northwest down the dirt road into a valley which is due west of the Jumping
Bull and Wanda Siers residences. The view shows a {497} corral which is
at the edge of a wooded area at the far western section of the valley.
This shows the area where the dead FBI Agents, Ronald A. Williams and Jack
R. Coler were found on 6/26/75. Sweep continues from west to west-southwest
to include as a close-up on the bottom part of the screen a root cellar,
continuing in a southwesterly direction to include six wrecked vehicles
in the valley and thereafter in the foreground what appears to be a white
propane tank and a pile of wood. Continuing now in a southerly direction
showing a wrecked car and green roofed and green sided house which is at
this point in a due southerly direction from the camera. The sweep continues
from south to south-southeast to show another out-building, a shade and
then the main residence of Harry and Cecelia Jumping Bull. Sweep continues
to show another out-building with a whitish colored roof, the sides being
of hewn logs which is now in a due easterly direction. The sweep continues
from east to east-northeast to show a white and black Chevrolet pickup
truck and a turquoise colored vehicle. Camera sweep continues to again
include the Wanda Siers residence which is due north. Another film strip
of the green roofed, green sided house which is south-southwest from the
Jumping Bull residence and in the due southerly direction from the camera.
From the green house the camera sweeps from south to south-southeast {498}
and again to east-southeast and due east to include the residence and general
surroundings of the Jumping Bull residence. The camera then reverses and
goes back to an east-southeast direction to again include the area around
the Jumping Bull residence. At this time close-ups are shown of the Jumping
Bull residence and several nearby buildings thereto. The camera then sweeps
from east-southeast to an east-northeast direction showing close-ups of
previously filmed areas. The film now switches to show the area several
yards due east of the Jumping Bull residence shooting in a southerly direction
and sweepIng in a southerly direction to include vehicles and the Jumping
Bull residence. The film now depicts an area to the south of the Wanda
Siers residence panning an area overlooking the valley to the west of that
residence and sweeping in a southerly direction to include the Wanda Siers
residence and a distant shot of the Jumping Bull residence. Continuing
sweep from south to east to include the road entering by the Jumping Bull
Hall into the Wanda Siers and Jumping Bull residences from Highway 18.
This view shows a vehicle traveling in a northerly direction on Highway
Route #18. The film now depicts a front view of the Wanda Siers residence
a northerly direction and sweeping to the west and back again to the Wanda
Siers residence, and again panning an area in the westerly {499} direction
from the Wanda Siers residence. Film now showing the west side of the Wanda
Siers residence with the camera facing in a northeasterly direction and
sweeping to the north and north-northwesterly direction on to the west
depicting the valley due west of the Siers residence. Continuing with a
sweep of this valley in a direction of west to south. Again the film shows
the corral in the valley, and previously mentioned wrecked vehicles in
the distance which is in a due southerly direction and again panning to
the direction south to the Jumping Bull residence and from south to east,
back again to a due southerly view from the general area of the Wanda Siers
residence into the valley below. With another pan back from south to west
direction showing the rising terrain west of the Jumping Bull general area.
The film now depicts the dirt road leading approximately 50-60 yards in
a south-southwest direction from the Jumping Bull residence which road
generally follows the tree line in a south and southeasterly direction
from this residence. This view is taken with the camera pointing in a northerly
direction at first and then swinging, following the dirt road along a fence
line into a heavily wooded area which at this point would be filming in
a southeasterly direction. Following down this dirt road into a heavily
wooded area and then viewing a red and white van type {500} vehicle parked
in the middle of the dirt road in the heavily wooded area, which is the
area commonly known as Tent City. The camera then pans the general area
of this red and white vehicle showing some of its interior and general
surroundings. This vehicle was facIng in a generally northwesterly direction.
The camera now pans an area commonly known as `Tent City' showing some
tents and another vehicle also parked facing in a north or northwesterly
direction and pans the general area surrounding these tents, this vehicle
and items found to be in the vicinity. The camera now views an individual
uncovering a weapon which is covered with heavy pieces of bark. The camera
shows a close-up of this weapon on the ground and continues to pan the
underbrush and foliage in this general area to show other weapons found
therein and being held in the air for the camera by individuals. The camera
then shows a green olive-drab duffle type bag which was found near the
green vehicle which was located parked in this area. The camera continues
to pan the general area of the foliage and underbrush and other items in
the area known as `Tent City.' The camera now moves to an area due north
of the area known as Tent City approximately 20 yards into a small rise
where we see movies of the FBI vehicle known to have been assigned to SA
Ronald A. Williams. The camera pans the general area where this {501} car
was located and of the interior and exterior of the vehicle. Immediately
upon leaving the scene of Agent Williams' vehicle, the camera shows another
view of the Jumping Bull residence facing a northeast-north direction panning
to the north and then from north to north-northwest again showing the valley
to the due west of the Jumping Bull residence, with a zoom-in on the corral
located in the far western section of this valley and then showing a general
overlay of the valley facing in a generally western direction which was
the death scene of SA's Williams and Coler. Panning from the west to the
south the camera shows the dirt road and the wrecked vehicles to the west-southwest
of the Jumping Bull residence and the road entering into the heavily wooded
area to the south, going toward Tent City, again facing in a southerly
direction showing the green house known to have been inhabited by Ivis
and Angie Longvisitor and continuing the sweep from south to east showing
other out-buildings and the main residence of Harry and Cecelia Jumping
Bull with the camera pointing in a generally easterly direction with a
continued sweep from the east to the north. The sweep goes back again showing
the residence of the Longvisitors with the camera facing south and views
of the general area surrounding the Jumping Bull residence from both north
and west sides. The camera then shows the plowed field {502} east-southeast
and due east of the Jumping Bull residence and continues to pan from east
to north showing Jumping Bull Hall, a large shade and then the black and
white pickup truck and turquoise colored sedan from several angles. The
camera, again facing a westerly direction, makes a quick sweep of the valley
from the Wanda Siers and Jumping Bull residences to include the Siers residence
and a distant shot of the Jumping Bull residence area. Again sweeping after
the Jumping Bull residence from south to east, the camera shows the main
entrance road from Highway 18 coming in from an east to west direction
toward the Jumping Bull residence with a large butte in the background,
showing a vehicle traveling in a northerly direction on Highway 18. There
are again other views of the Wanda Siers residence facing in a northerly
direction and sweeping to the west showing the general area around this
residence. The camera, again facing in a westerly direction sweeps part
of the valley which is west of the Wanda Siers residence, continuing a
sweep from west to south to show the corral on the far western edge of
the valley, the dirt road entering the valley from the north to the south
to again include the wrecked vehicles at the far southern edge of this
valley west of the Jumping Bull residence. With a continued sweep to the
south the camera shows part of the Jumping Bull residence area, and back
{503} again from south to south-southwest to again show the valley located
directly west of the Jumping Bull and Wanda Siers residences and one of
the roads entering this valley from north to south."
{504}
MR. HULTMAN: The government, Your Honor, calls Horace Heafner
next.
HORACE HEAFNER, being first duly sworn,
testified as follows:
DIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MR. HULTMAN:
Q Would you state to the jury and the Court your name,
please.
A Horace James Heafner.
Q And where is your home, Mr. Heafner?
A In Fairfax, Virginia.
Q What is the nature of your occupation?
A I'm employed with the Federal Bureau of Investigation,
Washington, D.C.
Q And approximately how long have you been an employee
of the Federal Bureau of Investigation?
A 29 years.
Q And what has been the nature of your experience with
the Federal Bureau of Investigation?
A I prepared visual aids for investigation, training and
other uses.
Q And as a result, are you called upon in your capacity
to make various charts, exhibits with reference to possible upcoming exhibits
in trials?
A Yes, I am.
Q In this particular case that we are hearing here, were
you {505} called for such assistance?
A I was called to prepare charts and a mockup of a scene
on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation in South Dakota.
Q Would you go back for the jury and indicate what were
the things that you did in this instance in order to prepare to make the
various exhibits that you and I are going to discuss for a few moments.
For example, the making of aerial photographs and so forth.
A Yes.
I arranged with a company in Rapid City, South Dakota, to make
aerial photographs of the area that you see in back of me. And then I went
on the scene and made measurements of this area.
Q So that the base for which you start to make the various
charts and so forth that are here was first an aerial photograph of the
area itself?
A Yes. That's right.
Q And is that a fairly accurate representation, an aerial
photograph of whatever that piece of ground might well be?
A Yes, it is.
Q Would you tell us then what you did next?
A Then I took this material back to Washington and prepared
the charts and the mockup of the area.
Q Now in addition to the taking of the aerial photographs,
I believe you indicated that you went to the area itself in {506} person,
did you not?
A Yes, I did.
Q And referring to Government Exhibit 71 which is an exhibit
you did prepare yourself, is it not?
A Yes, it is.
Q Would you indicate to the jury what area and what you
did in terms of being physically on the ground.
A In this matter I went to the area and took measurements
of the buildings and certain places at the site and took them back to the
office for use in preparing this chart.
Q And basically you had aerial photographs of the area,
personally walking and measurements that you personally took from the area
on the ground itself?
A That's correct. In addition to photographs.
Q Would you then just in general terms tell the jury what
it is that Government's Exhibit 71 represents. Not in terms of any evidentiary
factor but only the objects that are portrayed there or attempted to be
portrayed there.
A In this exhibit it's a diagram of an area called the
Jumping Bull Hall area on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation in South Dakota
and it portrays the layout of the area with the structures at the scene
showing connecting roads. And then an area to the right that shows the
location of the tents. In addition there are cards and tags with items
on it.
Q Do you have a pointer that is prepared for use with this
{507} exhibit?
A Yes, I do.
Q Would you go to that pointer and relate the pointer to
the exhibit.
A This is the exhibit?
Q Yes. Exhibit 71.
How is the pointer itself connected to this exhibit for anyone
who might use the exhibit?
A This pointer is scaled so that you can take and measure
off any distance on here to give you an approximate distance on the ground.
Q Now what is the scale of Government's Exhibit No. 71?
A In this case, since this is an enlargement of the area,
the scale is set forth at the top here. It would be about two and a half
inches equals 100 feet if you measured it out.
Q And if someone used the scale at the top or used the
pointer scale that you have, you can measure with a relative degree of
accuracy the distance between various points and objects on this exhibit,
is that correct?
A That's correct.
Q For example, would you measure an approximation for me
from the point on Government's Exhibit 71 wherein we have referred to,
and on the exhibit is a green house which is located at this point on the
map (indicating). Would you measure the distance approximately from that
point for me down {508} to the point on the road which would indicate,
or the location of what the object is known as Coler's car.
A All right.
Q Just by way of illustration to the jury.
A That measures about 600 feet.
Q And it's 600 feet, that would be approximately how many
yards?
A 200 yards.
Q And would you do the same thing for me, because Counsel
had asked a question the other day of measuring from the same green house
to a point where, which is illustrated as Special Agent Williams' car up
in the upper right-hand corner and tell us approximately what that distance
is.
A That would be about 1400 feet.
Q And approximately how many yards would that be?
A Be about 700 yards.
Q 1400 feet and approximately how many yards?
A Excuse me.
MR. TAIKEFF: We'll stipulate, Your Honor, it's 467 yards.
Q (By Mr. Hultman) All of us on the moment do make an error
now and then, don't we, sir.
Are the various objects that you have portrayed there, the houses,
the roads, are they in the relative position and in the relative distance
that are portrayed on the aerial photo {509} from which you began your
work?
A Yes, they are.
Q Now I would now direct --
MR. HULTMAN: And I might ask Your Honor if the witness
might go to Government's Exhibit 20.
THE COURT: The witness can approach Government Exhibit
20.
MR. HULTMAN: Your Honor, I might ask if it would be possible
at this time, maybe the jury could leave the box to be at a point where
they could see, to be somewhere for a brief explanation of this exhibit.
If Counsel has no objection.
MR. TAIKEFF: I have no objection, Your Honor.
THE COURT: The jury may step down from their jury box and
view the exhibit as the witness testifies.
MR. HULTMAN: Might I remain here with the witness, Your
Honor, to ask these few questions?
Q (By Mr. Hultman) Now referring to Government's Exhibit
20, Mr. Heafner, and would you explain in general what this exhibit is
and how you prepared it.
A This is the three dimensional model of the area at the
Pine Ridge Indian Reservation called the Jumping Bull Hall area. It was
prepared from aerial photographs and the topographic studies and on site
measurements of that area.
Q Is this prepared to a scale also?
A Yes, it is. It's one inch on here equals ten feet on
the {510} ground.
Q So ten feet on the ground in distance is represented
on this exhibit by one inch?
A That's right.
Q Now do you have also a scale on this same pointer, the
other side of this pointer which measures distances as far as this model
is concerned?
A I do.
Q Now in addition to being a representation of a part of
the area, the center part area primarily of Government's Exhibit 71, this
also gives some dimensions in terms of showing generally what the elevations
are which cannot be shown or seen on Government's Exhibit 71, is that correct?
A That's correct.
Q To show what is relatively higher or relatively lower
in comparing one spot or one area with another?
A Yes.
Q Now so that the jury might be oriented, they have been
observing Government's Exhibit No. 71 and if we would look and I would
direct the jurors' attention and the witness to that exhibit. If we would
look at the left-hand upper corner we would see Highway 18 and where it
begins on the left side of that exhibit. Where in relationship now is that
point where you start in to Jumping Bull Hall as you leave Highway 18 and
start in to Jumping Bull Hall, where approximately on or off of {511} this
exhibit would that be?
A It would be east of this area here (indicating). Highway
18 would come in at this angle (indicating).
Q And is this the road that comes in from Jumping Bull
Hall?
A From Highway 18.
Q Highway 18. All right.
What is the first building as represented both on ,Government's
Exhibit No. 71 and the first object on this end of Government's Exhibit
20 which is the extension, so the record will show, of this exhibit, which
is this building portrayed here?
A It's referred to as Jumping Bull Hall.
Q So that that lone building there, that is referred to
on Government's Exhibit No. 71 which says, as you leave Highway l8 and
go, the first building is Jumping Bull Hall so referred there. Is this
object on the extension?
A Yes, it is.
Q Now would you then, starting at Jumping Bull Hall and
going down the road point out various objects that are shown on this mockup.
A Well, I can refer to this as the Sears' house.
Q All right. That is the Sears' house.
MR. HULTMAN: And let the record show that he is pointing
to a house which is colored in what way?
A Well, this is the front part is stucco and the back part,
{512} it's a red asbestos type brick.
Q Have you used colored combinations for the buildings
to try to portray that thought?
A Yes, I have.
Q Now if we were to continue on down through the cut here,
would you be going from a fairly level elevation or a flat area to a lower
elevation?
A Yes, you would.
Q And you would be going down that road then toward some
objects that are represented there at the present time which appear to
be automobiles, is that correct?
A That's correct.
Q Now the first object there is an object with sort of
a grey automobile in color, is that right?
A That's right.
Q Would you tell the jury what that object is so that we
leave no confusion in anybody's mind?
A This would be an abandoned automobile.
Q A single abandoned automobile.
Does that also appear on Government's Exhibit No. 71?
A Yes, it does.
Q And is so pointed out there in wording, is that correct?
A That's correct.
Q Now if you move on farther down, you come to another
vehicle, a yellow or gold looking vehicle, and would you tell {513} the
jury what that represents.
A That, I'm told that that vehicle represents one of the
agents' cars.
Q And this was the location through analysis that was the
area at which the automobile was found, is that correct?
A Yes.
Q Now would you point out then where corrals are in that
general vicinity.
A All right. We go down in this lower portion here to Whiteclay
River.
Q There are in effect what appears on both Government's
Exhibits 71 and 20 here sort of two corrals, separate corrals, one larger
and one smaller?
A Yes, sir.
Q Are those again so represented on Government Exhibit
71?
A They are.
Q Now if you continue on around the road that sort of circles
it and you got to the far edge of this Exhibit 20, there appears to be
a row of about, well, six specifically, again, cars, is that correct?
A Yes.
Q That's what that represents?
A Yes.
Q Now is that the same object that is also represented
on Government's Exhibit No. 71 where there is a cluster of cars?
{514}
A Yes, it is.
Q Now if you were to continue on that road toward a number
of jurors and toward the wall, would you continue on in a direction to
go to the area which is the tent area as is shown on Government's Exhibit
71?
A Yes, you would.
Q And then what, if you came on back up the hill, are the
various buildings that are represented in a cluster here? Would you start
with the far building. It's green in color and tell us what it is.
A I understand that is a green house which is covered in
green tar paper.
Next to that would be a shed and then this house here is a stucco
type frame house.
This is a log type house and then you have another green tar
paper house.
MR. HULTMAN: Might I for the record, and I would think
without any objection by Counsel, that the green house is the house that
we referred to and has been referred to and will continue to be referred
to as the green house.
Q (By Mr. Hultman) The center white house with trees in
the area is the Jumping Bull residence and the log house then is the next
residence this way. Would you point out the log house.
A Right here (indicating).
Q This is the log house. So that the objects here, generally
{515} buildings are, this is Jumping Bull Hall, this is the Wanda Sears'
residence, the bottom of the road where the vehicle as represented there
of the FBI agents, the two corrals, the abandoned automobiles, the green
house, the Jumping Bull residence and the log house (indicating). Those
are the major items as far as buildings in the area, isn't that correct?
A That's correct.
Q And then there is one other additional small building
between the log house and the Wanda Sears' house?
A Yes.
Q Now generally speaking is the terrain between Highway
l8 and where you can see here it drops off pretty much a flat, very flat
table top area?
A Yes, it is.
Q And you have got it portrayed here?
A Yes. It's quite flat in here (indicating).
Q Then it drops away as is generally shown in this exhibit
down to the creek area, is that true?
A That's true.
Q Show us where the creek area would run beginning, for
example, beyond the Wanda Sears' house and show the general direction that
the creek would run.
A This creek actually connects Oglala Lake and starts back
over this way and runs in a winding direction over in that area, back up
off the model towards the tent area (indicating).
{516}
Q Now you have here on this exhibit 20 some things that
portray trees or bushes and then areas that have none. Is it a fair assumption
on my part that in the areas where there is none there are no trees of
any kind and that's why they are portrayed there as being an open area?
A That's right.
Q And where you have shown foilage, that is an area where
there is, consisting of trees and foilage, is that correct?
A Yes. That's correct.
Q Now Counsel has asked me to ask you for the defendant
further questions. Would you relate with reference to north and south here
and relate it on with relationship to Exhibit 20 what is portrayed and
which you have been on the ground and seen, as you have indicated, the
area known as the tent area. Would you point and show approximately where
the direction would be from where you're standing at the Wanda Sears' residence
and moving on to the Jumping Bull property with relationship to this exhibit
where the tent area would be.
A It would be in a south, I'd say more of a southeasterly
direction.
Q And that is the direction you are now pointing, is that
correct?
A Yes. That's correct.
MR HULTMAN: I do not recall what the correction was when
we measured it, and you corrected it, corrected the witness, {517} Counsel,
the approximate distance from the green house to the automobile and the
tent area, do you recall?
MR. TAIKEFF: Approximately 12 feet.
MR. HULTMAN: But in yards.
MR. TAIKEFF: It was 1400 yards.
MR. HULTMAN: 1400 feet.
MR. TAIKEFF: 1400 feet.
Q (By Mr. Hultman) Could you indicate approximately with
your present measurement at Counsel's request, approximately generally
how far away from the green house, make the same measurement to show on
the table beyond or in that general direction about where the tents and
the tent area would be located 1400 feet.
A It would be about here at this glass (indicating).
Q About where the glass is located on the second table?
A Yes.
MR. HULTMAN: I have no further questions.
Does Counsel have any questions?
MR. TAIKEFF: No.
MR. HULTMAN: I believe we could return, Your Honor.
Your Honor, I would offer into evidence Government's Exhibit
20.
MR. HULTMAN: Is that subject to a special understanding
that Counsel have concerning its usage or should we approach the bench
and explain to the judge possible predicaments.
{518}
MR. HULTMAN: I would suggest, Elliot, if we do come to
that point we meet it at that time.
MR. TAIKEFF: At this time, Your Honor, anticipating no
difficulties, should a problem arise, we won't object.
THE COURT: Exhibit 20 is received.
MR. HULTMAN: I have no further questions.
THE COURT: You may cross-examine.
CROSS-EXAMINATION
BY MR. TAIKEFF:
Q Have you ever seen the film which is Government's Exhibit
No. 10, I believe, the color film of the area?
A Yes, I have.
Q And in that film did you notice any people whom you recognized
as FBI agents?
A I don't recall. Offhand I don't recall. I was looking
more at the terrain. I wasn't conscious of individuals.
Q Do you recall whether there were any people in the film
who appeared in khaki clothing, military type garb?
A I believe I saw some; yes.
Q Do you know whether they were FBI agents?
A I don't know who they were.
Q Is it customary for FBI agents to wear khaki or military
type garb on the reservation?
A I'm not familiar with that ruling.
Q Now you went personally to this area to make certain
measurements on or about July 7, 1975, did you not?
{519}
A On July 8, 1975.
Q While you and your colleagues were there preparing sketches
and taking measurements, were you accompanied by members of the Denver,
Milwaukee and Chicago S.W.A.T teams?
A Yes, I was.
Q What is a S.W.A.T. team?
A Well, it's my understanding it's agents that are specially
trained in situations that require manpower to come in and secure an area
or provide protection or take over an area.
Q Do you know what S.W.A.T. stands for?
A Special Weapons Attack Team.
Q Were three of those teams there with you at that location?
A There were men with me; I don't know what teams they
represented.
Q Putting aside the names of the cities involved or possibly
involved, how many such people were there in the area when you went to
make measurements?
A I didn't ask. I don't know.
Q And what kind of clothing did they wear?
A Various types of clothing. Some had fatigues.
Q You say fatigues, you're talking about khaki colored
or military type clothing?
A Green. Yes.
MR. TAIKEFF: I have no further questions.
MR. HULTMAN: No further questions, Your Honor, and I {520}
have run out of witnesses as well as film.
THE COURT: The timing was quite good.
You may step down.
Is the United States ready at this time to, I'm going to recess
the court as far as the jury is concerned. It's 5:00 o'clock. I was wondering
if the United States was ready to respond to some of the matters mentioned
by defense counsel.
MR. HULTMAN: No. The government is not, Your Honor. All
of us have been here in the courtroom and I would like an opportunity at
least until Monday morning to look at those various items and I think they
would agree.
MR. TAIKEFF: No objection.
THE COURT: Very well.
The court will recess then until 9:00 o'clock Monday morning.
And I again remind the jurors that you are not to discuss the case or form
any opinion in your minds until it has been submitted to you for your deliberations.
The court is in recess.